Scott Alexander, curated
← Back to curation

The Poor You Will Always Have With You

Quality
69
Strong
Claude Shift
52
Moderate
RWI
2
of 10

Summary

A reply (to a critique of the Anti-Reactionary FAQ) arguing that ancient Rome counts as an early 'progressive' society despite lacking modern social-justice philosophy, because the causal arrow runs Urbanization+Growth -> Social Change -> Progressive Values, not the reverse. The vivid examples: the fat-acceptance movement followed rising obesity (it didn't cause it), and no-fault divorce followed (didn't cause) rising divorce — the ideology is 'the tail wagging the dog', a thin justification layered onto material change (Frederick the Great: 'I will begin by taking, I shall find scholars later to demonstrate my perfect right'). So Rome's welfare/multiculturalism/syncretism/libertinism arose from the same militarily-secure, urban, wealthy conditions as ours, and the differing philosophy is beside the point. A sharp materialist model of social change.

Why this score

Quality 69 · Strong. Strong (69): a memorable, well-argued causal reframe (values as downstream of material conditions) with vivid supporting cases; held FIRM below Excellent as a debate-reply on a bounded question.

Claude’s paradigm shift 52 · Moderate. Moderate (52): the reversed causal arrow (social change -> values) and the fat-acceptance/divorce parallels are a fresh, clarifying framing.

Real-world impact 2 · Minor. Minor-plus (2): a within-blog contribution to the reaction/progressivism debate; limited durable footprint.